What Constitutes “Rest” For A Figure of Antichrist?, part one

What constitutes “rest” for  figure of Antichrist?

Shooting the breeze with a fellow Talmudist at the Casa Santa Marta inside the walls of the Occupied Vatican on the West Bank of the Tiber River.

In reality, of course, there is nothing really “new” in Interview Number 8, which was conducted by Henrique Cymerman, a Talmudist, for La Vanguardia, a Spanish newspaper. Cymerman, who was born in Portugal, is a featured correspondent for Israeli television Channel Two.

Here is a bit of background about Henrique Cymerman from the Jewish Telegraph:

Henrique Cymerman was the last man to interview Yitzhak Rabin before the Israeli Prime Minister’s assassination. 

The journalist’s life was in danger after interviewing one of the world’s most dangerous terrorists in Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

He has visited the headquarters of the Arab terrorist group Islamic Jihad.

And he has worked as a special envoy for the United Nations and made current affairs documentaries for television.

Henrique Cymerman’s background and life would make a pretty good documentary in itself.

In fact, plans for a production on the story of his life are underway, with an Israeli director currently writing the script.

Born and brought up in the Portuguese city of Porto, his father, Meir, settled in Portugal from his native Poland.

Henrique’s mother, Cotta, came from an old Sephardi family in the Spanish enclave of Melilla in North Africa.

Not known as one of Europe’s thriving Jewish communities, the Cymerman family still retained a strong Jewish identity in Portugal, thanks to Henrique’s father and grandfather.

Most of the country’s Jews live in Lisbon and it was there that Henrique was taken to see the city’s rabbi about plans for his barmitzvah.

He recalled: “We also went to see the new consul of Israel and they were celebrating Israel’s independence day.

“It was there that I learned all about Israel and the Middle East.”

The new consul, Michael Kehat, arrived in Portugal with his family, including his daughter Yael.

Henrique and Yael became friends before the family moved back to Israel, but amazingly they bumped into each other in Tel Aviv years later.

They are now married.

“This was in 1971 and Michael had fought in the Six-Day War and was severely wounded,” Henrique recalled.

“He told us stories about the creation of Israel – it was then that I decided I wanted to move to Israel and become a journalist.”

Henrique went though with his intention when he was 16, moving to a kibbutz.

“The Portuguese people are friendly in general, but there were times when I was reminded that I was a Jew and it was not easy for me,” he said.

“Antisemitism is not a phenomena in Portugal like in other areas of Europe or the world.”

But his parents didn’t stay in Portugal for much longer either.

They moved to Spain after Portugal’s military coup.

His mother moved to Israel little more than six months ago – at the age of 86.

Once in Israel, Henrique took his first foray into journalism by editing the kibbutz’s newspaper.

He went on to read psychology at Tel Aviv University and holds an MA degree in the political science and sociology.

Later landing a job at the Israeli newspaper Maariv, he was sent to be a correspondent in Barcelona, where he also worked as director of information in the city’s Jewish centre.

Henrique, who speaks Portuguese, Spanish, English, Hebrew and French, recalled: “It was at the time that diplomatic relations between Spain and Israel were being established.”

Henrique and Yael’s first child, Dana, was born in Barcelona and they lived there until he moved back to Israel.

It was a kind of role-reversal, as he then started to cover Israel and the Middle East for Portuguese and Spanish television.

“My first big scoop when I was back in Israel was breaking the news about the Madrid Peace Conference, in 1991,” Henrique recalled.

“My bosses at Antena, the Spanish TV station I worked for, said I was crazy, that it was impossible, that Israel and the Arab countries would never get together to talk like this.

“Then American Secretary of State James Baker announced it publicly.”

As well as quizzing dozens of Israeli MKs, diplomats and prime ministers, Henrique has also foraged into the Arab world, interviewing King Hussein of Jordan, Yasser Arafat, ex-Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei and Palestinian National Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

“I met Arafat 14 times,” he said. “He was very Egyptian in that he had a good sense of humour.

“Arafat was not corrupt personally – he lived like a monk – but there was a lot of corruption close to him, which is not uncommon in the Arab world.”

As well as meeting Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Henrique has interviewed Abdullah Shami in Gaza – and could have been dangerously hurt or killed.

“It was just before Bill Clinton was due to visit Israel,” he remembered. “Shami told me that he wanted to see Clinton dead and this interview was broadcast in Spain.

“Of course, the world’s media picked up on it and then Shami was arrested, together with other members of Islamic Jihad.

“I was in Gaza when this happened and I was frightened that something might happen to me. But, in the end, they didn’t touch me.”

Perhaps his most pivotal interview came with the late Yitzhak Rabin, just a day before Yigal Amir shot him dead in November, 1995.

“Eitan Haber, who worked for Rabin, invited me to the defence ministry to interview Rabin about the peace rally which he was due to go to the next day,” Henrique said.

“He seemed really tense and I could feel his stress – he didn’t want to go to the rally, but he was obliged to. I asked him at the end of the interview how he would like to be remembered and at that moment, he said ‘we finish”.

“When I was told he had been killed, I was in complete shock – it traumatised a generation.”

Henrique’s work led to him writing a book, Voices from the Centre of the World: The Arab-Israeli Conflict, which has just been published in English.

It was originally published in Portuguese – and even attracted the attention of Real Madrid manager Jose Mourinho.

Henrique said: “When Jose visited Israel five years ago, as a guest of the Peres Centre for Peace, he brought the book with him. He said he didn’t know much about the Middle East and had a lot of questions for me.

“I am trying to bring Cristiano Ronaldo to Israel at the moment – apparently his mother likes my stories.”

He was also the recipient of Portugal’s highest honour, the Comendador de la Orden del Infante Don Henrique.

And last month, Henrique received the prestigious Anti-Defamation League Daniel Pearl Award.

With all his experience in speaking to the most important people in the Middle East, Henrique believes that Israel is a much stronger country than many people perceive.

He explained: “Jews have always had a traumatic time, but we don’t measure things in objective terms or by equability.

“Israel needs to show to the world that it wants piece – it is vital.

“Iran is an important threat, but I don’t think Israel’s existence is in danger.” (If it’s a big interview, newsman Henrique is sure to be there.)

Obviously, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who hid his pectoral cross when he met with the two grand rabbis of Jerusalem last month (see On the Road to Gehenna with Jorge, Abe and Omar, part three), does not believe that he has any kind of duty to seek the conversion of a man, Henrique Cymerman, who belongs to a false religion, Talmudism, as he, Bergoglio, believes that Jews do not need to convert to the Catholic Faith in order to save their immortal souls.

Indeed, Vaticanista journalist Andrea Tornielli of Vatican Insider noted that the idea for the “prayer for peace” in the Vatican Gardens six days ago, Pentecost Sunday, June 8, 2014, came from Cymerman himself, who has interviewed such diverse figures as the assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat:

Last Monday, the day when illness forced him to rest, Pope Francis granted a long interview to the Spanish newspaperLa Vanguardia”. The full text was also made available by the ‘Sismografo’.

The interview with the Pope was carried out by a Portuguese journalist, Henrique Cymerman, a Middle East correspondent for “La Vanguardia”, “Antena 3” and the Israeli TV “Channel 2”. Meeting him on the outward flight to Amman, the Pope, who had seen the Israeli journalist sitting next to a Palestinian colleague, had asked him to protect him during his trip to the Holy Land. Cymerman was involved in the organization of the Prayer for Peace, held in the Vatican and during the interview Francis recognized him: “The fact that this has taken place is in good part thanks to you“.  Here is the text of almost all of the responses of the Pope on various topics.  (Jorge Shoots the Breeze While “Resting”.)

Very Brief Comment Number One:

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who believes that the prayers of those who deny the Incarnation of the Second Person of the Most Blessed Trinity, Our Blessed Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in the Virginal and Immaculate Womb by the power of the Third Person of the Most Blessed Trinity, God the Holy Ghost, and, of course, who deny the doctrine of the Most Blessed Trinity, is pleasing to his Judeo-Masonic conception of God and can produce “peace” within souls and among nations. It is only natural for him to have such great affinity for those such as Henrique Cymerman, who denies the doctrine of the Most Holy Trinity. Indeed, Cyerman  is really a Talmudic advocate for “understanding” between Zionism and Mohammedanism, sort of Talmudic ecumenist, if yo will. Birds of a feature do flock together, after all.

Persecuted Christians

“Persecuted Christians are a concern that touches me as a pastor. I know a lot of these persecutions which I do not think would be prudent to tell of here, so as not to offend anyone. But there are places where it is forbidden to have a Bible or teach catechism or wear a cross … What I want to clarify is this: I am convinced that the persecution of Christians today is stronger than that in the first centuries of the Church. Today there are more Christian martyrs than at that time. This is not fantasy, there are the numbers.  (Jorge Shoots the Breeze While “Resting”.)

Atypically Brief Comment Number Two:

Gee, who was it who took off that pectoral cross to avoid offending the Christophobes who parade around as the “grand rabbis” of Jerusalem? Jorge does voluntarily what the Mohammedans and others seek to do by force.

Then again, Jorge, much in the manner of George Walker Bush and his neconservative geniuses who planned his father’s Persian Gulf War in 1991 and his own Iraq War that was launched on March 20, 2003, and much in the manner of Barack Hussein Obama and his band of “world without borders” globalist, believes that it is “fundamentalists” who give Mohammedanism, which is, he believes, a “religion of peace,” a bad name. Jorge Mario Bergoglio never once blames Mohammedans for violence against Christians, seeking only to castigate unnamed “fundamentalists.”

Moreover, Jorge Mario Bergoglio’s belief in “ecumenism of blood,” about which he has spoken so much, overlooks the simple fact the eleven million Catholics who were killed between 67 A.D. and 313 A.D. died in defense of the Catholic Faith, not a generic type of “Christianity.”

The Council of Florence, meeting under the authority of Pope Eugene IV, made it very clear that even those who give their blood for the Divine Redeemer if they are not united to the bosom of Holy Mother Church:

It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church. (Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence, February 4, 1442.)

While it is certainly true that millions upon millions of Catholics have been killed by the brutal power of statists of the “left” and the “right” around the world, Jorge does not want to identify those who are responsibility for these killings.

As mentioned just above, however, nothing can take away from the martyrdom of Catholics in the first three centuries of Holy Mother Church’s history as those martyrs cleaved to the integrity of the Catholic Faith, something that has inspired countless millions of martyrs ever since, including those who died at the hands of the Protestant Revolutionaries in Germany, the Netherlands, England, Scotland and Wales in the Sixteenth Century ever since. Jorge seems to forget about the blood-stained beginnings of Mohammedanism and Protestantism and the fact that there were many Jewish co-conspirators in the persecutions of Roman times. Can’t upset that “ecumenism of blood” business, you understand.


Violence in the name of God is a contradiction, it does not correspond to our time, it is something ancient. With a historical perspective we must say that Christians at times, have used it. When I think of the Thirty Year War, that was violence in the name of God, today it is unimaginable. Right? We arrive at times, through religion, to very serious and very severe contradictions. Fundamentalism, for example. In the three religions (monotheistic, ed) we have our fundamentalist groups, small in relation to everything else. A fundamentalist group, even if it does not kill anyone, even if it does not hit anyone, it is violent. The mindset of fundamentalism is violence in the name of God.” (Jorge Shoots the Breeze While “Resting”.)

Comment Number It’s All Been Said Before Many Times:

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is an insidious ideologue, a man who is ignorant of true history, whether of the Church or the world. He is also a philosophical cipher.

God has ordained just and holy wars. Jorge Mario Bergoglio cannot admit this as he does not believe in God as He has revealed Himself to us through His true Church. He is the simply latest in the ever-growing line of conciliar “popes” who believe that our true popes were wrong to call for the Crusades or to fight against the Turkish fleet in the Battle of Lepanto on October 7, 1571, or even to repel the invading Mohammedans at the Gates of Vienna on September 12, 1683.

The rise of unjust wars in the past five centuries is the direct result of the Protestant Revolution’s overthrow of the Social Reign of Christ the King and the rise of Judeo-Masonry.

Jorge’s ideological view of history is such that his simplistic view of the Thirty Years’ War is made into something that it was not: a religious war. While it is true that the war began when those peace-loving Protestants living in Bohemia revolted against the Holy Roman Empire, the religious aspects that instigated this war served merely as a pretext for purposes of settling matters of national sovereignty and domestic political control. After all, Jorge, Catholic France sided with German Protestant states against Catholic Spain and the Holy Roman Empire. Oh well, what can you expect from an ideologue.

Moreover, Jorge is such a sloganeering ideologue that those who adhere to the integrity of Catholic doctrine must be caricatured as “fundamentalists” who are “violent” of their nature even though they do not use physical force against anyone. This is the same kind of demagoguery used by the likes of Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro and friends as they denounce those who oppose the chemical and surgical execution of the innocent preborn in their mothers’ wombs and who oppose “gay rights” as “violence-prone” haters even though they do not “act” on their “violent” inclinations.

In other words, Jorge Mario Bergoglio is beneath contempt. He is truly the most violent man in the whole world as he makes war upon the Sacred Deposit of Faith, including the very nature of God Himself, and slaughters souls by the millions upon millions, souls who could be headed for eternal ruin because they look to him for “spiritual guidance” and “consolation” as they persist in their lives of unrepentant sin.

Me? a revolutionary?

“We should call the great Mina, the Italian singer and say, “Take this hand, gypsy” and ask her to read my past … (laughs) (actually the song was sung by Iva Zanicchi, ed).  For me, the great revolution is going to the roots, to recognize them and see what these roots have to day nowadays. There is no contradiction between being a revolutionary and returning to the roots.  Moreover, I believe that the way to make real changes is to begin from the identity. You can never take a step forward in life if not from the past, without knowing where I come from, what my name is, what my cultural or religious name is“.  (Jorge Shoots the Breeze While “Resting”.)

All Right, the Last Comment Was Not So Brief. Here is one, Number Four, that will be:

As has been noted before on this site, “returning to the roots” for Jorge means reinterpreting the words of Holy Writ without the “filter” of the Scholasticism of Saint Thomas Aquinas and of Holy Mother Church’s general councils, especially the Council of Trent and the [First] Vatican Council that were “corrupted” by the work of the Angelic Doctor.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio takes pride in being a revolutionary. In this, of course, he is in perfect communion with the adversary, who never rests as he prowls about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

My security

“I know that anything can happen to me, but it’s all in God’s hands.  I remember that in Brazil, they had prepared a Pope-mobile closed with glass. But I cannot greet people and tell him that I love them from inside a sardine can, even if it is crystal. To me this is a wall. It is true that something can happen to me, but let’s be realistic, at my age I don’t have much to lose”.  (Jorge Shoots the Breeze While “Resting”.)

Snappy Comment Number Five:

What a touchy-feely egotist.

He has to “touch” the people so that he can let them know that he “loves” them,

First of all, he does not love “the people” as he is a heretic who gives them a corrupted, distorted teaching of the Faith that has been condemned by true pope after true pope. He is a poster boy for Modernism. He also is the worst “friend” of non-Catholics as he does not seek with urgency their unconditional conversion to the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation and without which there can be no true social order.

A true pope shows people the love of the Divine Redeemer by blessing them In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.


As the hour has gotten very late, work on Interview Number Eight is going to be halted. Late hours have been kept every day this week. Enough is enough for the time being. Please check back tomorrow for part two.

Pray Our Lady’s Most Holy Rosary.

A blessed Trinity Sunday to you all.

Viva Christus Rex! Viva Cristo Rey!

Our Lady of the Rosary, pray for us.

Saint Joseph, pray for us.

Saints Peter and Paul, pray for us.

Saint John the Baptist, pray for us.

Saint John the Evangelist, pray for us.

Saint Michael the Archangel, pray for us.

Saint Gabriel the Archangel, pray for us.

Saint Raphael the Archangel, pray for us.

Saints Joachim and Anne, pray for us.

Saints Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar, pray for us.

Saints Vitus and Modestus, pray for us.


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